I have to admit, I love the "Safety Crowd." In case you don't know what that means, it's a term I coined for those who interpret every single set of news as bearish, regardless of it being inflationary or deflationary. This group of investors is also known as perma-bearish. And since we are in this perma-bearish environment, thanks to the total economic collapse in 2008, the old argument between Bonds vs Stocks is not even alive anymore. It has morphed itself into Bonds vs Gold.
You see it goes something like this: if a news report comes out showing that US ISM has declined below 50 (contracting) and that the economy is slowing, half of the Safety Crowd will tell you that this is an inflationary event because the slower the economy, the more money printing the Federal Reserve will do and the more Gold you shall buy - because Gold is a safe haven, they claim.
On the other hand, the other half of the Safety Crowd will argue that this is a deflationary event because the slower economy will tend to collapse on its own two feet and the worst thing you can have in a recession is a high amount of debt (asset deflation occurs while debts remain at the same level). Under this scenario, they claim, Treasury Bonds is the ultimate place to park your money, as they are a safe haven.
There is so much fear around since the end of 2007, that the Safety Crowd has on a consistent basis just recommended to buy Gold or Treasuries over and over and over again. They claim that these asset classes will preserve your capital and that when 2008 repeats, you are going to benefit from the risk off scenario.
Lets consider both...

In my own opinion, buying Gold right now would be extremely foolish and totally defeating the purpose of wisdom which states to "buy low, sell high". The sentiment for this asset as measured by ETF fund flows for SPDR GLD is now at the highest ever monthly inflows. Listen to that again.... highest ever monthly inflows. That means dumb money is doing exactly that... following the Safety Crowds advice. This trade has become so obvious to the public, which are scared out of their own minds, that it is obviously wrong.
Furthermore, the Gold bull market has now been in progress for over 1000 days without even touching the 200 day moving average once. I admit my warnings have been a tad early, as I have already posted about this as early as late July, but in all honesty that was only three weeks ago. I guess majority of investors today are actually traders, who only use intra day charts, so gone are the days of actually buying something and riding out the trend. Either way, previous warnings can be read here, here and here.
Furthermore, the Gold bull market has now been in progress for over 1000 days without even touching the 200 day moving average once. I admit my warnings have been a tad early, as I have already posted about this as early as late July, but in all honesty that was only three weeks ago. I guess majority of investors today are actually traders, who only use intra day charts, so gone are the days of actually buying something and riding out the trend. Either way, previous warnings can be read here, here and here.And while Gold remains in a secular bull market and profoundly has good fundamentals behind it for several years to come, Treasury Bonds actually do not. They are even worse out of the two, because the Safety Crowd forgot to tell you that during recessions, tax revenues decline and therefore deficits will go through the roof. I do not know how they missed that, but it is similar to the Goldilocks Crowd in 2007, which forgot to tell you that Financial Sector was actually not cheap.
So what happens to the United States budget during a recession, which the perma-deflation Safety Crowd claims will be good for Treasuries?
You see during negative economic growth, company earnings as well as profits fall and jobs are cut. That means tax revenues decline. The Treasury will therefore have to issue new bonds at a very rapid speed to finance the deficit budget, which was already at over 4 trillion dollars last year (including hidden liabilities).

The fresh issues of new Treasuries will devalue the credit quality of the actual existing bonds (not that it has any credibility with the country being bust already). Therefore, the Treasury Bond will actually be close to reassembling a Junk Bond to a certain degree. Having said all that, an investor should also consider that optimism is so high on the Treasuries right now, that the asset class is actually setting itself up for a short of the decade!
Summary: My advice to investors with a six month to a few year time horizon looking at buying something during this turmoil is to stay away from the recommendations of the Safety Crowd perma-bears... stay away as far as possible. You must understand that these investments will not only lose you money, but also lose you sleep over the coming months. If I was to buy anything right now, it would actually be agricultural commodities or commodity related stocks that are linked to fertiliser.

Furthermore, as a side note, I would also look at buying energy commodities or commodity related stocks that are linked to Oil drilling. You see my view is that if Crude Oil declines below $75 per barrel, drilling will automatically stop and you can forget about the ability to actually find Oil at any price in the future! With the continuos increase in demand from Emerging Market economies, supply will just fail to keep pace, making Crude Oil price go much much higher. Higher than both you and I can imagine.
"This trade has become so obvious to the public, which are scared out of their own minds, that it is obviously wrong."
ReplyDeleteIn order to legitimize this assertion, would you be willing to share what percentage of your portfolio is short gold currently?
"...forgot to tell you that during recessions, tax revenues decline and therefore deficits will go through the roof."
What in the world do tax revenues have to do with Treasury fundamentals??? Government expenditures are not 'financed' by Treasury issuance. Expenditures are made, and then AFTER that, the Treasury issues bonds in the amount of the shortfall between income and expenditure. Make no mistake, expenditures are in no way constrained by 'financing' or tax revenues.
Likewise, since Treasuries are "short of the decade", please also disclose what percentage of your portfolio is short Treasuries.
Hey Mate,
ReplyDeleteGreat site and interesting, however the bullshit noise in the background sucks, how about shutting it off.
WSM - In the summary it states what I might start buying and slowly accumlating. On the side note of my blog it also states what I own and invest into. I don't short things, but I would consider putting a short against Gold or Treasuries with a tight stop loss if I was a trader. This blog is run as investment dairy, and these are my opinions. I also disclose everything I'm buying and selling, I disclose all right and wrong investments, so it's all in the open. At no time should you ever follow what I am thinking or doing, you should do your own research before you invest your hard earned money.
ReplyDeleteTo answer your question: If you think things through, fundamentals have everything to do with tax revenues. The United States government is totally bust. It is insane to lend money to the US at 2% interest over the coming years. It is actually insane to do it at 3, or 4, or 5, or even 6%! And the bigger the downturn, the less tax revenues and more spending the Treasury will do. Deficits will be so huge, it will make August debt ceiling look like a child's play. What does it matter if the Treasury finances itself before or after it starts spending it?
The market is a discount mechanism, it prices in events before they occur. Smart money is not going to wait until the recession occurs to sell of the equip market, as you can see it crashed before it. Likewise the smart money (bnd vigilantes) isn't going to wait until the US runs out of money again to start selling off the bond market. I do not know when they are going to start, but if it was me, I would short Bonds when all others are panic buying. PUT Options are now at their cheapest to short Treasuries. Minimum risk, maximum exposure.
Finally the way I see it, you will make NO money investing (not trading) in Treasury Bonds anyway, even if I am wrong. Whyndo I say that? Either the bonds will now start going down and yields going up: or if they don't by some mircle, the US Dollar eventually will be anyway, so your profit in your bond investments will be paid to you in worthless confetti paper! Either way, this is a short of the century. As a matter of fact if the US Dollar rallies for a few months, it would also be a great short as well, because both are doomed under a money printing environment!
Anonymous - Those are Bloomberg videos which you have to stop yourself. For some reason, they are auto play.
Gold just hit $1900 or so. Johnny Come Lately's are going to get really hurt soon...
ReplyDelete"What does it matter if the Treasury finances itself before or after it starts spending it?"
ReplyDeleteThis is the epitome of the fundamental misunderstanding of how the monetary system actually functions. If Treasury debt is issued AFTER spending has already occurred, then this demonstrates that spending is in no way contingent on 'financing'. The spending happens before, and independently of, any issuance of debt. Since spending levels (i.e. deficits) are independent of debt, then taxes and spending (i.e. deficits) are independent of Treasury (debt) fundamentals.
"The market is a discount mechanism, it prices in events before they occur."
If you believe markets are 'efficient', then please, give me your money, and I will invest it in some ocean-front property in Arizona.
"Finally the way I see it, you will make NO money investing (not trading) in Treasury Bonds anyway, even if I am wrong."
I could care less one way or the other whether anyone makes any money investing in (or shorting) Treasuries. I am simply demonstrating that the arguments being advanced against Treasuries are idiotic, misinformed, and contradictory.
Nobody said markets are efficient. If they were efficient, the yield on the 10 Year would be at 5% or even 7%.
ReplyDeleteI said the market is a discount mechanism, meaning it discounts events over the 6 to 12 month horizon. In simple words it looks ahead.
So a recession, in my opinion, is negative for Treasuries. But hey, you are free with whatever you want to do.
If you could care leas about making money on investments, why are you on this blog? Traders here like to invest and price in future economic events regardless of when the Treasury issues new bonds, before or after, they cold care less about demonstrating arguments, but try and sell when others are buying and visa versa.
You could always discuss the fundamental non sense on ZeroHedge.com instead.
"If you could care leas about making money on investments, why are you on this blog?"
ReplyDeleteI just said I could care less about whether anyone makes money on Treasuries, not investments in general. And to answer your question, I am commenting on this blog because it came up in my reader and I came across a fair amount of erroneous propaganda. I felt compelled to offer readers some offsetting truth.
Propaganda... haha that's a good one! I've heard much much worse stuff before. =]
ReplyDelete"I've heard much much worse stuff before."
ReplyDeleteI am not surprised.
Don't spread Propaganda!
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